Post by iconPost by vapediffusion | 2017-12-20 | 23:31:59

Hello everyone,

When I registered for VOR 3/11, a few days before departure, I used a large amount of credits to equip my boat (all options except Radio Alert and Custom Boat). A few minutes before the start, I decided for the Full Pack option and paid the 15 Euros requested. Surprisingly, the credits used previously did not come back. So, I paid twice!

Are there other people in my case?

I asked VR to regularize this situation and looks forward to hearing from them

Good winds to all


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Post by iconPost by GeGaX | 2017-12-20 | 23:35:35
You'll have nothing ... I got myself also for the TJV ... Your credits are lost
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2017-12-20 | 23:45:19
It's possible that if you insist, threaten to sue or something like that they may refund you some credits.

There are also players who have purchased large amount of credits for hard cash before the new rules were announced and now can't use them to get the discount.
Post by iconPost by pmangino | 2017-12-21 | 20:31:30
Same case
Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-21 | 00:04:42
sent a factual and polite message to VR support requesting a refund of credits:
Post by iconPost by nsp | 2017-12-21 | 03:50:51
Mike believes in Santa...
Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-21 | 14:55:59
I trust is polite and insisting requests working out well in most cases. Let other people see the problem your in, in stead of telling them what to do or how to run their business. And end with a clear request (not a demand).

Santa, please let me finish top 50 ;)
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2017-12-21 | 21:08:51
There is a Bulgarian/Macedonian proverb that says that you get what you want "Gently, carefully ... and with a pair of guns"
Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-22 | 00:14:28
I think that would also work in Francistan
Post by iconPost by vapediffusion | 2017-12-22 | 00:33:22
Hello everyone,

I really like the Bulgarian / Macedonian proverb. Another says "do not sell the skin of the bear before you kill it", to which I would add, "it is not necessary to hit him on the head because he does not have to do not hold the same language ".

The situation is changing, the negotiations are going well ...

Good winds to all

Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-22 | 01:57:50
good luck and thumbs up!
Post by iconPost by nsp | 2017-12-22 | 00:43:27
I like that

@Mike...I have been doing exactly what you say as a profession for more than 2 decades now. And as matter of a fact I think is the natural first approach. Be factual, precise, objective and polite. You are right and that is what I teach as an older colleague to the new guys, however I also have to point them tools to deal with crooks and to survive in the jungle.

And the difference is exactly when we are navigating in gray areas or not so gray. When money is at stake, when someone is picking your pocket. In that situation you ask once, if you need to ask twice you sue!

Those more than 2 decades also taught me to recognize where Santa unfortunatelly is not for sure Mike. ;P
Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-22 | 01:59:28
I don't llke people talking about killing bears
Post by iconPost by nsp | 2017-12-22 | 02:44:29
You didn't pay any atention to what I've wrote. I don't kill bears. I scare them! But they don't lick my honey! Only if I am distracted or if don't care if whether I feed them or not.

In general I like happy bears and hanging around!
Post by iconPost by vapediffusion | 2018-01-13 | 18:44:24
Hello everyone,

I come back to this case that does not lack interest.

I sent an explanatory email to the VR Help Center who refused net, arguing that they do not have to repay the credits spent by mistake. Not being an error on my part, I insisted on writing again and then lived a long and heavy silence ...

This VOR regatta being proposed by Volvo and that we can play directly from their site, tired of waiting, it is to them that I addressed myself. I did not get an answer or even an acknowledgment of receipt, but two days later, after receiving a new RV refusal, the Game Help Center contacted me to make a very correct proposal. I will not go into details but their proposal does not make me lose a penny. I do not win either but it was not the goal.

I do not know if Volvo has intervened in this case and I do not care about it anyway. I think rather that my insistence has invited them to read my request to the last line.

In one of my letters, I took the opportunity to ask that computer scientists lay a few lines of code to avoid this kind of situation. To have…

If in a next step I arrive three days before you all, you will have the right to think that the deal included Jack Sparrow's compass unless they set me a rocket on the transom of my boat; -)))

I wish you all the best and cling to your trapeze, sometimes my wave of bow makes you all capsize ;-)

En français :

Bonjour à tous,

Je reviens sur cette affaire qui ne manque pas d'intérêt.

J'ai envoyé un mail explicatif à l'Help Center de VR qui a refusé net, argumentant qu'ils n'ont pas à rembourser les crédits dépensés par erreur. Ne s'agissant pas d'une erreur de ma part, j'ai insisté en écrivant à nouveau puis vécu un long et pesant silence…

Cette régate VOR étant proposée par Volvo et que nous pouvons jouer directement depuis leur site, las d'attendre, c'est donc à eux que je me suis adressé. Je n'ai pas eu de réponse ni même un accusé de réception mais, deux jours plus tard, après avoir essuyé un nouveau refus de VR, l'Help Center du jeu m'a contacté pour me faire une proposition très correcte. Je ne vais pas entrer dans les détails mais leur proposition ne me fait pas perdre le moindre centime. Je n'en gagne pas non plus mais ce n'était pas le but.

Je ne sais pas si Volvo est intervenu dans cette affaire et de toute façon cela ne me regarde pas. Je pense plutôt que mon insistance les a invités à lire ma demande jusqu'à la dernière ligne.

Dans l'un de mes courriers, j'en ai profité pour demander à ce que les informaticiens pondent quelques lignes de code afin d'éviter ce genre de situation. A voir…

Si lors d'une prochaine étape j'arrive trois jours avant vous tous, vous aurez le droit de penser que le deal comprenait la boussole de Jack Sparrow à moins qu'ils m'aient fixé une fusée sur le tableau arrière de mon bateau ;-)))

Je vous souhaite bon vent à tous et cramponnez-vous bien à votre trapèze, des fois que ma vague d'étrave vous fasse tous chavirer ;-)
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2018-01-13 | 18:51:01
That reminds me how in daily corporate life if some job dpending on other department/company does not get done you add one management level to the CC list of the email. Until the job gets done.

Thanks for sharing.
Post by iconPost by Lasse | 2018-01-14 | 03:05:26
I bought all options with my money and when I saw the possibility to buy full pack I asked for a refund which I got. But that was after the race had started so I didn't have the possibility to buy the full pack any longer. Anyway, my options was not removed so I got them for free. Thanks Jessica!

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