Are the polars static? Seems some creep since start.
Post by iconPost by SPRexxii | 2020-11-22 | 01:33:21

Hi all, I have a question for Cvetan regarding the polars. When we started and I interrogated the polar Toxcct supplied I saw a peak at 30 Kts both speed and VMG. As of 18 hours ago top speed is now at 26Kts but VMG remains at 30Kts.

I'll save my opinion of the polar for this race in general, and keep the original query. Is the polar being manipulated as the race progresses?

Cheers,
Rex

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Post by iconPost by SPRexxii | 2020-11-22 | 16:18:24
update.

i'm traveling at 115deg and toxcct says wind 9.3kt and 10.67 kts expected.
VR only gives 10.2kts.

Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-11-22 | 16:40:13
VR server says you are sailing at TWA 114.7 speed 10.63. Wind speed is rounded a bit, so in reality it's probably closer to 9.25
Post by iconPost by SPRexxii | 2020-11-22 | 16:18:27



Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-11-22 | 16:42:43
Polars have not changed since the start.
Post by iconPost by SPRexxii | 2020-11-22 | 17:01:58
Must be VR console issue. Also would not carry sail changeover on course change and showed 2Kts if I went to 90deg....

More growing pains...

Thank you Cvetan.
Post by iconPost by alexpanzeri | 2020-11-22 | 17:41:27
Good evening,
I notice too some problem of correlation, but at the end I check double ways, and the problem is stil the fXXXXXX delay in refresh made by "spilorci" stingy and bad programmers fo VR, it's nearly +30min that it doesn't change the sail even if it recorded that should be changed.

Unfortunately, maybe you/we have to rethink the way to use this, zezo, fantastic instrument to manage the creepy VR at least fo this VG...

Thanks ZEZO TEAM!
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-11-22 | 19:05:45
With auto sails active the client can be a bit off indeed, but the server is mostly doing its job.
Post by iconPost by jokap | 2020-11-25 | 17:24:54
A few days ago, I made an attempt at copying the polars from the game UI by hand to an excel sheet...and I, too, noticed a slip of roughly up to 1.5 knots for certain values when double-checking during the hours of my tedious task. It was definitely pretty odd and for certain not a problem related to my (lack of) concentration.

If anybody is interested in that excel sheet, let me know--happy to share!


Edit: Typo

Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-11-25 | 20:32:06
It's not guaranteed that the VR polar diagram is implemented correctly. On the other hand we know that the server gets the polars right because the VRDashboard warns you about discrepancies by doing its own speed calculation.

Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2020-11-25 | 18:40:08
There is a link you can click in the left column of http://toxcct.free.fr/ that will do all that work for you. However, that would not have identified any discrepancies you might have found.

If you can post here what speeds and angles you've noticed changes, I can check those points in the current polars with a table I downloaded shortly after departure.
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Game frozen @ 15:30 GMT?
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ice exclusion zone for VG
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La meilleur voile
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Ice limit changed
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Ice limit penalty
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Action table no more on the race page
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la flotte du VR n'apparait pas sur zezo sur mon Macbook alors que je me suis bien identifié, mais que le joue sur Ipad
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Problem with blue, red and green lines
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NMEA to Google Earth
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Dashboard 3.14.1 is reporting wrong TWD in NMEA
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DTL in Dashboard?
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Who is writing in zezo???
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lignes des glaces differentes ZEZO et VR
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Jibs speed penality
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Récupération de la position des bateaux (amis ou suivis) depuis ZEZO vers QtVlm
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Plus de données notée
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weird new behavior /!\
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Inconsistency btw green line and isochrone
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Mobile Apps Weather4VR and SailGrib4VR
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Basic game question
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No more wind indications?
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Coordinating timing start of route calculation with position
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Difference between Zezo gribs and zezo chart
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routing and boat speed
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Isochrones missing after 105°E
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GREAT Jean Le Cam - Viva Eric Escoffier!
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ZEA (Antarctic Explosion Zone) not up to date on the Dashboard
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Lignes noir / bleu / rouge ne s'affiche plus
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ICE LIGNE
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Problem on visual MAP on Dashboard 3.12.11
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CDN test #3
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zezo polars vs VR polars
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Nardin Watch challenge
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Little square in toggle tracks ?
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CDN test
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Data underline in red in dashboard
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Some changes - caching/CDN
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VR Dashboard Version 3.13.1
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Zone de glace
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Bugged buoy in the programmer turns the yacht at heading 0,0
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New VR failure mode
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10-minute between predicted Zezo TWS and actual game TWS
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New server for Zezo?
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When does the red exclusion line whill be extended?
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Are the polars static? Seems some creep since start.
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How to find best TWA for positions in the future - Question for beginner
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Starting now to use ZEZO
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algorithm current position and speed
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VR winds issue
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NMEA and AIS Yes ! but....
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Display forecast timestamp
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Server still down ? Server de nouveau au tapis ?
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manage several NMEA outputs with VR dashboard
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NMEA message format
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New Feature
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Foils
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VR Dashboard v3.12.10
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Toogle Tools
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Error Winds display
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flip-flop hours Grib confused following this morning's article
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Ligne noir/rouge
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coordonnées de la zone d'exclusion des glaces pour logiciels de routage.
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Gribs update on zezo
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2 differents solutions with zezo
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Discussion regarding the strategy on VGV2020
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Problème de pointage
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Is VR down
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Another server crash at 15:10 ?
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How can I see the Pack options of other boats on Zezo?
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"route zezo.org" extensions installed but do not appear and cannot be activated, even when zezo is running
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clarification - Ice exclusion zone for dummies
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The wheather uptade on Zezo is incomplete
3
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Troubles with VR & ZEZO on Big Sur for MacOS
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Problème routage Vendéglobe 2020
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TJV 2020
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doldrums = zero impact ? pot au noir on s'en fout ?
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Polar Chart
3
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Mauvaise voile en FULL PACK Bad sail in FULL PACK
10
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destination with step ?
3
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Coordinates ZEZO vs VR
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factor in red ?
3
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Mark
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toxcct's Polars Generator up to date for the Vendée Globe
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is there a way to change the "start time" for a simulation?
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Zezo will he adapt to the ZEA not to cross?
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VRDashboard log
3
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VR Dashboard V 3.12.9 worked great, but not anymore
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My boat
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clock stopped 23:50
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The server calculation rate has been reduced from 5 to 10 minutes
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Inaccurate wind and boat speed
10
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Reverse route
4
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phishing problem on internal links to the app (PC)
2
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Records 2020
12
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Lancement zezo impossible
3
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Import Zezo route in Qtvlm software
8
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Longitude and latitude
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What happens to commands you issue while server is down?
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SERVER DOWN ?
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Full Pack
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Vendée Globe
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HDG entre 2 points
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